...because Jehovah realized that he has been doing a lousy job; read the old testament. So he figured it couldn't get any worse if Satan took the reins, and Jehovah was right, things have gotten much better since he stepped aside.
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Why would Jehovah give Satan rulership of the World.?
by smiddy inromans 13 : 1-7 "let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities" etc,"the existing authourities stand placed in their relative positions by god" 2".therefore he who opposers the authourity has taken a stand against the arrangement of god ,those who have taken a stand against it will recieve judgement to themselves "etc,etc,.."..to him who calls for honour such honour.".
isnt this plainly stating that christians should be supporting and playing along with the governments of this sytem of things ?
that it is in fact an arrangement of god ?
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Girls are unpredictable, materialist, and use us, men, as a toy - Part 2
by will-be-apostate inwell here am i, a couple of years passed since my original post (link here), somewhat less mysoginistic, more open to relationships, heartbroken again.
this is an official "fuck my life" thread.. being chased by the elders makes one arrive at the conclusion that there is nothing better than not being chased by the elders.
i had a pre-jc meeting a week ago.
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I wouldn't pursue a long term relationship with someone that goes to bed with the first guy available, especially if she tells you that she doesn't know why she is attracted to you. Her libido is fine, even desirable; her brain, or rather her emotional stability, is not.
If this story did happen, just move on. There's better avenues to meet the girl of your dreams. Pursue your hobbies and go to places where people with similar interest go. That's where you are more likely to find a reliable match for you.
By the way, get rid of that stupid idea " girls use us". They don't use us more than we use them. Or males use other males, or females use other females, etc, etc. If you feel used in general, then there's a problem with your self esteem. In a way, you and the girl of the story, in a very ironic way, are a match. You both have some problems.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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my IQ is 140 yours I suspect is no greater than your shoe size
Sorry, but your form of argumentation places you in the two digit range. Since we have no other evidence, two digit stays
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AND STILL NO RELEASE OF THE 2017 JW YEARBOOK
by steve2 inhere we are on the cusp of the new year, and the 2017 yearbook of jws has still not been released.
jw.org continues to feature the 2016 yearbook in its list of main publications.
in previous years, the upcoming yearbook's annual report on jws was released in november for the january 1st then the feb 1st watchtower, then earlier in december when it was only featured in the yearbook, then more recently with a couple of days of december 25th.
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Since we are in the business of predicting, I predict that it will be full of false optimism, and it will fail to mention the ARC and the bad press they get around the world (Portugal, Canada, U.S. England, Spain). It will contain an article about the persecution in Russia though.
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Quality of newer membership
by Lostandfound inon a previous post mamacita29 pointed up the low quality of new jw converts.. is the quality falling even more as the society use lower than low meeting, talks, broadcasts etc.. when i was active initially the organisation and standards seemed totally different today.
i have seen hard working intelligent elders fall by death or exhaustion.
the younger generation that came along never really grasped responsibility hence shortage of good elders, never mind the watered down to almost nothing quality of meetings.
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Even the so-called deep Bible studies are replacement theory rubbish such as the Franz's anti-type cobblers and the UN stuff.
Diogenester,
True, is rubbish, but it's in line with the rubbish in the new and old testament. The apostle Paul and Matthew often twisted the Hebrew scriptures to force their own self serving interpretation. The same way was done by the Deuteronomic historian.
The point some of us are trying to make is that older generations of JW's knew their bible better than the present generation. Also the JW zeal level was much better before the 90's.
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Quality of newer membership
by Lostandfound inon a previous post mamacita29 pointed up the low quality of new jw converts.. is the quality falling even more as the society use lower than low meeting, talks, broadcasts etc.. when i was active initially the organisation and standards seemed totally different today.
i have seen hard working intelligent elders fall by death or exhaustion.
the younger generation that came along never really grasped responsibility hence shortage of good elders, never mind the watered down to almost nothing quality of meetings.
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Quality of ex-JW's going down is a good things at two levels
1. It's evidence that is a dumb down religion whose members have no clue about their own religion or the Bible
2. is closely related to number one. It's so dumb that they can't even retain the current membership
Just a brief comment for those newbies who feel offended. It's true, the people who posted as late as five years ago very commonly were very intelligent and extremely knowledgeable about JW history, Bible and Christianity. Take Leolaia for example. The caliber of posts that she and many others gave us is rare nowadays.
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Hello
by midnight inhi i am posting for the first time although i've been looking for a few years , i was born into a witness family left when i was 12 with my parents went back at 22 pioneered became ms started to have major doubts around 2002 when there was a lot of talk about blood fractions etc have been hit and miss since i'm extremely mentally confused as to wether or not this really is jehovah's earthly organisation , i find life hard facing up to mortality etc not having the new system hope , what nailed your decision to leave ?
how did you cope with world problems on news etc ?
how did you fill the void ?
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I have been an agnostic or atheist since my early teenage years, but for 20 years I found your religion a good one, simply because the members (lots of family and friends in) were good and nice people. My view took an 180 degree turn when I started researching, rather deeply, your religion, the history of Christianity, history of Christianity in the U.S., ancient history in the near East, Judaism. I concluded that any form of Christianity is utter bullshit, ranging from mild cults like the Catholics to the most extreme, high control and dangerous cults of death like the JW's. If you still believe in the Bible, then critically read the best books, Ecclesiastes and Job. They will bring some light into reality and help you to make better decisions. Today my favorite pass time is studying the Bible from an academic point of view. Much, much better than studying it under a control a cult.
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Just curious about how faithful women are these days. Anybody know?
by Alostpuppydog inso being someone who is not, however still believes around 70% of what the jw's talk about as far as the bible goes, ignoring the fact of no blood transfusions, shunning, etc.
wt doctrines, i got this question.
anybody really know how faithful 'worldly' (i use this term lightly 😉) women are these days?
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Being religious is quite secondary. Faithfulness mostly depends how good you are to make her happy.
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Honest Questions About Child Abuse
by Richard Oliver ini have two honest questions for everyone here.
i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.
but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.
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That is 1 per 60. If you have kids, and you are in a congregation of 120 publishers, you are exposing your kids continuously to 2 child abusers. Do you know them... or did the society not bother to inform you... good luck
Your calculations have to take into account that the 1006 cases happened over a period of more than 60 years. So your children have to remain children for 60 years and be regular JW's. It's not gonna work.
The situation is very bad as it is, but 2 child abusers per congregation at any given time is a gross exaggeration.
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My first Christmas with my son
by Funchback inafter i left the jws, i began to live a normal and mentally healthy life (i'm still working on living a physically healthy one) .
anyway, in 2011, i met the woman of my life and we have been together ever since.
and now we have a beautiful son who will turn 1 in january.
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Congratulations! Have a happy new life!
Your son is quite lucky. Not only do you know how bad it could have been, but also you appreciate this new freedom better than most of us (never in a cult people), who take it for granted, and therefore fail to make the best of it.